Episode 7: Finding Your Life’s Meaning and Purpose with Laurie Santos
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Episode 7: Finding Your Life’s Meaning and Purpose with Laurie Santos
Are you someone who is struggling to find meaning and fulfillment in life despite all your hard work? Have you contemplated leaving your job but have no idea how to do it or is fear keeping you from taking the first step? In this episode, we have the pleasure of speaking with Laurie Santos, a highly accomplished life coach who has helped many individuals do just that. I’m very excited to speak with life coach Laurie Santos, who has worked with many international high achieving women to help them not only find meaningful work but create complete overhauls of their lives when necessary.
Laurie, it’s a pleasure speaking with you. Many of our audience are struggling to find meaning and purpose in their lives and I understand you’ve gone through your own journey of discovering that for yourself. I was hoping you’d share some of that journey with us and to help our audience get to know you a little bit more and how it is you came into coaching.
First of all, thanks, Lisa, for having me. It’s so nice to be with you and be with your audience as well. I will definitely be happy to share a little bit about my journey and how I found coaching. It was very funny and synchronistic. I was actually United States Probation and Parole Officer. I had been an officer for about ten years and I had worked with all kinds of interesting criminals. Being a probation and parole officer, we are supervising usually the criminal once they get out of the criminal justice system. I had two roles. I used to write pre-sentence reports for the judges to provide recommendations on what the offender should receive at the time of sentencing and then I moved into supervision where I was supervising the offender. What that meant was going over their terms and conditions of release so that way they wouldn’t be in the system anymore.
I should say that they’re released from custody, it’s a supervised release. They’re serving a probationary or parole sentence with me and that meant a lot of coaching but I didn’t know that word at the time. That included helping them get back involved in society, reintegrate hopefully some rehabilitation if they had drug or alcohol issues as well as job coaching. I found myself quite miserable after about ten years in this career. I started to hear myself and the things I was saying were pretty toxic and very negative. I found myself in the same stream of thought where I really felt I wasn’t going to be able to leave this job even though I wanted to. I had talked to myself into believing that I didn’t have anything else that I could do since I have a Master’s in Justice and I have a Master’s in Science and Anthropology. Of course, I need to stay in Justice or Sociology for example.
I didn’t know about the phrase transferable skills back in the year 2000. One day, I decided to go through a pile of magazines that had been piling up in my bedroom. It was Shape Magazine. It’s very famous for us women who want to be fit and healthy. Admittedly, I was just looking at the pictures and maybe five quick tips on how to get fit. I wasn’t reading the articles and I’ve been subscribed to the magazine for a couple of years already. One day I said, “Why aren’t you reading the articles?” I sat down and the first one that was on the top of the pile jumped out at me and when I opened up the magazine in the middle, the article opened up to, “What is life coaching?”
I remember literally saying out loud, “What is this? What is life coaching?” It was around maybe 2002 or so. I read this article and it just hit me. It was very well done first of all, and at the end of the article, they had all of these schools that have been accredited by the International Coaching Federation. I immediately enrolled in two and graduated from both and finished my certifications. I think you probably went through the same experience I imagine, of having to start your little practice while you’re going through the classes and so on. I did, I started my part-time practice alongside being a Federal Officer. The beauty of that was having that massive contrast, loving my part-time business and not loving my full-time job. The other piece of it that really propelled me to full-time coaching and training was my clients were leaving their careers and I was still in mine. I felt out of integrity and not congruent. I hired a coach that I went to coaching school with and we coached together for about a year and developed my plan and stuck to it. I left in December of 2006 and I haven’t looked back.
It’s a wonderful journey because I think a lot of people can resonate with that feeling of feeling trapped. Even if you have that inkling in you that you’re meant to do something different the thought feels insurmountable and saying, “How’s that possible? How am I going to do it?” One of the things that I find working with clients too is that as you start taking a few steps outside your comfort zone, it’s often when those thoughts of fear, doubt, insecurity come up. That’s really where I see the value of coaching because as that fear comes up, what happens to most people is they fall back in line to what they’re comfortable with. Even if it at some level you’re dissatisfied, you’re miserable, it’s familiar and especially our subconscious minds, we like what’s familiar and the world makes sense. I find too the power of coaching is to help people continue to take constructive action in spite of that fear, doubt, insecurity and those are what keeps people moving forward.
The one thing that stuck out at me is about the fears and being in the comfort zone. We have our own gremlins to contend with our own inner critic. On top of that, when we’re sitting in that comfort zone is the fear and the nerves of others that are in our lives and in transferring their worry upon us. I remember for example, going to my parents and I was an adult, I had my own house at the time. I wasn’t living with them anymore. I remember talking to them about wanting to leave my career and feeling that I have found my purpose and my passion and then both being nervous for me and saying, “You worked for the US government and you have a solid paycheck and a good salary.”
I was sitting with that for a moment and almost taking it in. However, the great news at that point was I was tired of sitting in the comfort zone and I knew that I wasn’t feeling alive and I wasn’t feeling on fire. However, when I was in my coaching classes and when I was coaching people, I was lit up. I was excited. It felt very different than when I was coming to get my Master’s program and working as an officer. I remember telling my mom and dad, “I feel you’ve done a good job raising me and you know me. I think that you should have some trust and faith in how you parented me. I’m going to take this chance and have some belief in me that I’m going to be able to do it.”
It’s several years later, I’m still coaching and I still have my business. Also when I was still an officer, I was practicing what I was learning in the coaching schools and then it was reinforced back to me. I saw my colleagues looking at me in a different way and talking to me in a different way and saying, “I want some of what you’ve got. What are you doing there?” I said, “I’m learning some new ways to think and I’m learning new ways to feel. I’m learning new ways to behave in my coaching school and I’m learning I don’t have to think the way that I always thought. We can live a life that is different than the way that we were conditioned and programmed.”
Breaking free of those old thought patterns, that’s really the challenge. They sneak up on you and sometimes they come in disguise. One of the things you were talking about, which is important for people to realize is when you’re trying to find that sense of purpose and find that courage to follow that passion. In my work, I often use the metaphor of an acorn, a young sapling trying to grow here. One of the things that I think people need to be aware of is when you’re trying to grow, you’re trying to connect with that acorn. That little sapling that’s trying to grow is to be very conscious of who you’re interacting with, who you’re sharing your ideas with.
Some of the people who love us the most, you would think those are the people you want to share all these thoughts, ideas and dreams with but sometimes you’re coming up to their own fears in programs. A couple of years ago when I started my clinical practice, my parents are very loving parents but they weren’t entrepreneurs. It was like, “You’re not going to go to the company with the 401(k), the retirement plan, the benefits and all of that.” I went to a coach myself and said, “I’m ready to branch out on my own.” When you’re trying to make these changes, a coach yourself, you’re getting your own coach or finding a community of people who are into the personal growth realm and to be able to bounce ideas off to be able to have that encouragement when those inevitable self-doubts arise is so important. Sometimes those aren’t maybe our family members are our closest people. They may say, “We support you,” but it’s so outside their comfort zone that it may be hard for them not to say, “You have a government job with a pension. What are you doing?”
Of course they happened under Obama, they happened under Clinton. Now it’s happening under Trump and I laughed. I was like, “What if I did stay in the government?”
That’s the thing that people don’t realize is typically the people who are most successful are those who are following their passion because they’re meant to do something that’s so in line with their talent, with their strengths, how their mind naturally works. When you’re doing something that you’re fitting this mold that innovation, that problem solving, that creativity is not being well-utilized. When there’s a great match between what you’re meant to do and then what you are doing, those are the people who are going to be most successful.
You said a couple of things, Lisa, that resonates. The first is when you’re going through this overhaul of your life and taking stuff, walk and going, “I really want to be excited and invested in my life and this career’s just not cutting it and the people are possibly naysaying or they’re Negative Nellies. I personally did go through a complete revamp. I had to cut a lot of people out at the time. Maybe it was limited contact or a complete cut out because I knew it was a burning obsession for me to work for myself and have that freedom, flexibility and fun that I truly desired in order to set my life on fire if you will. I knew that one strategy was important for me to not have them around, not have them impact my mindset.
That was something that felt at first a bit, “I’m not so sure how comfortable it’s going to be,” but we know in the world of coaching, it’s not necessarily always supposed to be comfortable. The next thing that you said was when we are having our passion find us because I feel my passion found me. It’s impossible I feel to get off course, to get off track because it literally is about living your life, living my life in alignment with my values. Once I was back in touch with my values, it became so uber important for me to be congruent and never slide back into a place or a position where I wasn’t living from those values anymore. I do personally and professionally believe when we do live from our core values, we have so much more safety and we have so much more security. People love the enthusiasm.We can live a life that is different than the way that we were conditioned and programmed. Click To Tweet
When you’re living from your values and your passion, you’re constantly enthusiastic. It’s very contagious and people say, “I want some of that. How do I get that?” I’m really knocking on wood. My clients do come from recommendations or referrals and repeat customers. I stay on social media and so on and so forth but I don’t have to if I didn’t want to. That is because I’m so aligned with this work and I believe in this work and I’ve tested it on in my own life and my clients have as well. Thank goodness we’re all experiencing success and fulfillment because of it.
When you’re talking about being driven by your passions, it exudes positive energy. That’s what people around you start feeling, start experiencing. When you’re in that more positive energy state, what happens is you end up bringing the people around you into a higher positive energy state. It’s contagious. In my experience, when people on the other side of the coin are doing something that’s not aligned with what they’re really meant to do, they’re driven but they’re driven by typical anxiety. If you look around the world, unfortunately, I think the majority of people are driven by anxiety either trying to feel a sense of self-worth, a sense of “I’m good enough” or trying to maintain a certain image. It’s just when you’re in that anxiety state, unfortunately, the negative energy both that you’re experiencing and the people around you that stress is palpable oftentimes.
I’ll share even personally, I remember being an officer and really wanting to do a good job for the community, for the victims that had been offended by the offenders that I was supervising. When I look back I go, “Who was that Laurie? Who was that Laurie girl?” because I don’t feel I am her at all. I bought into that conditioning myself of, “Get your degrees and get that full-time career. Be a powerhouse and keep climbing. Change the story on what it’s like for women in probation and parole or just women in careers in general. Buy your house. Make sure you take good care of yourself.”
I was up at the crack of dawn, not even, it was still dark outside going running for miles in the morning. It wasn’t anything that I necessarily really wanted to do. I felt I had to do it. Now with my lifestyle, it actually feels a lifestyle, if you will. I naturally move now. I organically go work out. I feel I can hear my body more. It’s like my body guides me to do what is best for me to do right now at this moment. There’s far more balance, far more happiness, far more harmony. I think that’s the word, a lot more harmony because of living on purpose, living with my purpose and from purpose.
You mentioned the word balance and I know one of the things that you mentioned you use with your clients is the balance wheel? I was wondering if you could tell us a little bit more about that and how someone might be able to apply that to their own lives.
I learned the balance wheel my first day in school at Coaches Training Institute. It’s a wheel, it’s a circle and I have my clients write, actually draw it out. You can get a link, you can pull a balance wheel from CTI and download it for free but I like them to hand draw it. There’s something about building a contract with yourself and the intentions that you’re trying to manifest in your life by drawing this circle out and dividing it into ten different pie slices. The Coaches Training Institute usually has about ten-pie slices with different topics from our life. I have added a couple and that is the beauty of this balance wheel is you can rename the topics that feel more comfortable for the client, you can add topics on the balance wheel.
Let me give you some of the topics. The topics are relationship, family, friendships, career, privacy, alone time, social, fun, health, money, finances. We then score each of those categories on a zero to five level. Five is “woo hoo,” yes, the present day I’m absolutely satisfied and fulfilled with this particular category. Zero is not so much. I let my clients also score by half points. If they want to go half or one and a half, two and a half, they can also do that. As we score each of these pie slices according to each of these life categories, then I have the client take their pen and draw a circle internally within the wheel, the balance wheel itself. What that means is let’s say we have health and they scored it a five and then the next category was family and they scored that a zero.
They will then see when they draw a line from family to the next category that it has gone down from health to family I should say. We keep doing that internally through all of the topics and ultimately, you have a circle within a circle. It’s probably not a circle, it’s a bumpy ride, it’s out of balance. The purpose is not to judge the client or for them to judge themselves or be critical. It’s just to bring them into awareness. As a first coaching session, it also gives the coach and client an opportunity to see, “What would you like to coach on?” Oftentimes when a person is showing up in the coaching sessions as they don’t really know like, “I know I want to change but I don’t know where to start. I don’t know how to start and I don’t know which topic to start with.”
The balance wheel is wonderful because it gives both coaching client a starting point. With that awareness sometimes they’re a bit like, “I need to know it was this bad.” Oftentimes they’re like, “I’m actually doing better than I thought I wasn’t. I’d like to work with you on how to maintain and sustain this or to even increase the scores from three, fours or to fives.” That’s the balance wheel. One of the things that I think is critical about this tool is to use it as an ongoing tool. In my life, I use it about every 90 days. I check in, “How am I doing? Am I still on balance? My scores that were high, have any of them decreased? Have any of my low scores increased? Am I sustaining my fours and fives?” In fact, I just did my own balance wheel and then I did one again and I was like, “Whoa.” There were some dramatic changes and some changes I wasn’t so happy about to be honest with you, but the beauty of it is it lets me know that I can start working on some next steps. I encourage coaching clients also to check in with their original balance wheel 90 days later, where are you? Let’s do it again and how’s that going? It’s a great tool.
It sounds like a wonderful tool and rides along with some of my own work that I do when you’re looking at the different categories. This is what I try to help people, being a psychologist first and foremost, I do spend a lot of time trying to teach people how the mind actually works. I love with the balance wheel, you have those different topics and one of the things that a lot of people don’t understand is that our subconscious mind in particular as we’re growing up and it’s recording all this programming from all our interactions with our family, school, society, all of that. The way our subconscious mind organizes information is based on associations, not on logical reason.
As you’re growing up, imagine your subconscious mind is this big 3D spider web network of these associations and it has different themes and departments in it. It’s going to be recording. Let’s say there’s a theme of family relationships, there’s a theme of professional relationships, there’s a theme of money, of finance, of stress, of managing emotions, conflict. Oftentimes in our lives, we have these different scores maybe under different topics. Growing up you can get very constructive programming in one aspect of your life and very dysfunctional programming in the other aspect. Your parents may have had a very successful professional life but they may not have been able to manage their money or they may have not have done conflict well.
In your schools or whatever, you may have gotten excellent models of how to do professional relationships. One of the things I love about the pie there is you can see some of your strengths and some of the areas to work on but the tricky thing about the subconscious mind is that when it gets these two departments. You were mentioning about transferable skills. The funny thing about the subconscious mind is you can have strengths in one area. Let’s say in your professional life, you’re a great mediator. You regulate your emotions in your professional world and then you walk in the door and all of a sudden, you’re having conflicts with your wife and kids. It’s like, “What’s going on here?” The interesting thing is that a lot of times the strings in one department of the subconscious mind don’t communicate, don’t cross over into the other department. One of the things I love about the wheel you do with clients is showing them, “You have the strengths. What would conflict resolution, what would regulate your emotions look like if we brought that from your professional life into your home life?” You can start helping them how to cross talk different areas of their life.Breaking free of the old thought patterns is a challenge. Click To Tweet
One of the things also from a coaching perspective that we’re illuminating and illustrating in the balance wheel is that each of the categories can be affected or impacted. For example interestingly enough, when I was in my very first class in coaching school, I was volunteered to come up and score the balance wheel in front of the other coaching students with the master coaches. I was an officer at the time going through coaching school and I scored career first and I put it at a zero and then my other scores were actually quite low as well. When the coach asked me what made me score to zero and, “What do you see when you look at your other scores?” I said, “I see that I’m so attached to my career and how I should feel about it that my other scores are low because I’m allowing my feelings about my career to basically infiltrate the other categories of life.”
It becomes so heavy in my life, this zero that I placed in the career category that I’m not allowing myself to truly enjoy the other categories of my life. Then she asks me, “What does that mean to you?” I said, “It really means that I’m doing the right thing by being here in this school and making a change.” What was interesting was I remember social, fun and creativity were also low scores. I think they were ones or twos but I would go Salsa dancing almost every night after work when I was an officer. I was writing poetry but it still wasn’t enough. It was like I was going through the motions or doing those things in order to help me feel better about the career, but I wasn’t living my passion or my purpose. That’s the other thing that is beautiful about the balance wheel is seeing how the other scores can be lower because you’re out of balance on even just one category. That particular category could be a high priority in your life. It could impact you tremendously in your life, therefore invading the other categories and the level of satisfaction you could have with them.
Even though it’s only one part of the puzzle, it’s that draining that you’re almost like climbing an uphill battle to try to get enjoyment and energy with the rest of it. I think it’s a wonderful tool and I can easily see how people can benefit. I loved the 90 days check-in.
I started doing that probably a few years ago with coaching clients and I was like, “Why have we not been doing this sooner?” Better late than never. That check-in, I find it really wakes them up and lets them realize that they do have an ongoing tool. In coaching and in psychology we offer so many tools but I’m like, “If they just remember one and it happens to be the balance wheel, fantastic.” I love the balance wheel because it’s simple. It’s very easy to do. Obviously, it’s quick and it’s very effective and it creates a lasting impact. I did my very first balance wheel in front of that coaching class, I think it was 2000 or 2002 and I’ve never forgotten it and I’ve not forgotten my scores. I have made a commitment that I would continue to go up and change or modify and adjust when necessary. I do believe that this simple effective tool kit can last a lifetime in terms of its impact.
It certainly helps you live life more consciously. That’s really the key is because you want to become a conscious creator of your ideal life. Bringing your attention to say, “Have you fallen into any old patterns here?” Being vigilant about checking in and saying, “No, you’re on track here,” would be key to helping to make constructive progress for any clients or any person. I think that’s wonderful. You’ve also talked about using a future self-guided visualization and I personally would love to hear more about that.
I also have to give credit where credit’s due. I also learned this in my coaching school at Coaches Training Institute. It’s our second module that we learned and it’s a very powerful tool. Basically, we take the client, we put them in a very relaxed state and we have them close their eyes. We have them get in touch with their body and try to reduce all stress and then we fast forward them in time. I usually designate a time with them. I ask them, “How far ahead would you like to go?” It used to be when I did future selves fifteen years ago, most people want it to be fast forward in time twenty years ahead. Nowadays, people are usually selecting about five to seven years.
What I do is I take them through a visualization where they see themselves five to seven years in the future. What they do is they go into outer space and then fast forward in time by landing at the home of their future self. I walk them through seeing what the home looks like outside. Is it a condominium? Is it a villa? Is it on the beach? Are they in the mountains? Take an assessment through all of their senses of what the outside of their future house looks like as well as the neighborhood. Then they knock on the door of their future self and the future self greets them. The future self welcomes them into the future self’s home.
Before they walk into the home, they take stock of what their future self looks like. What are they wearing? What’s their energy like? How is their appearance? How do they feel? Are they calm? Are they relaxed? Are they radiant? Then they walk inside and get a tour of their future selves’ home or their dwelling and look at if there’s any art or is it minimalistic. Is it very well lit? How does it feel in the home? Then they have a conversation with their future self. At that point, I’m prompting questions in the conversation that they’re having with yourself. The questions usually sound like, “Future self, what did you do to get here? What did you stop doing to get here? What do you recommend that I do in the present day? Who supports you? Do you have a nickname?” Then I allow them to ask any questions that they might have for the future self.
Then we finish up the guided visualization by future self-presenting a gift. The client sees themselves opening the gift from future self and the gift is a symbol of the meeting. It’s usually inside the box if you will, is a reminder or a restructure of the meeting and the information, the advice, the council that the future self gave to the client. The client is reminded that they can visit their future self at any time, that they could do the guided visualization with themselves. Then they bid the future self goodbye and we’d come back into the present moment. We have a debrief about what they experienced, what they noticed about their future selves if the future self-had a nickname and what the symbol of the present was. Usually at that point to make it tangible and real, I ask the client to see if they can actually buy that gift that the future self gave them in the guided visualization or if they could make it or find something that is close that resembles the symbolism and to obviously keep it nearby.
Additionally, I ask them to ride out any affirmations or information that was substantial, that the future self gave them regarding the steps to take to move forward toward their dreams, their purpose, their goals, etc. We use the future self as an ongoing tool. Just like a balanced wheel, the future self becomes an ongoing tool. Some things that we do is we might have the client write future self autobiographies or record voice notes as their future self to themselves. I even used to write letters from my future self to my present-day self and mail them. That was really effective because about a week later I would be like, “I forgot that I wrote this letter to myself from future self. What a bunch of golden nuggets and gems that are here.” That was fascinating.
It helped fast forward my leaving and resigning from my Federal probation job. The other thing that we use as a tool with the future self is to have them to start dressing as their future self. If they notice that their future self-dressed a certain way to start buying clothing or wearing their hair the way that they noticed their future self. These are some wonderful tools because as we know, the future self and the present-day self are one. The future self is your subconscious, it’s your highest self. We don’t oftentimes listen to that highest self. We oftentimes listen to the gremlin or the negative critic but tapping into future self and giving future self a voice lets the client know, “I’m worthy. I do have self-confidence. I can be assertive and I do have the right to explore this goal, this dream or this purpose.”We know we want to change, but we don't know where to start. Click To Tweet
When you’re doing any visualization, one of the keys you brought to light is that you ground the person in their senses. A lot of times what happens is when someone ends up picturing something, they’re almost looking at it as if it’s at a movie screen. The key to any visualization to be really effective is that you need to be immersed in the scene and grounding them in all their senses. What do they see? What do they feel? Looking around, what artworks are on the walls?
It makes that visualization much more powerful. The other thing I love about the exercise is in coaching, questions can be so powerful to bring about change and I love those two questions. “What did you do to get to this place?” Even more importantly, “What did you stop doing?” Presenting that to your subconscious, the higher self has these answers. It’s just that we don’t always tap into the power of that. Presenting a question to your higher self and oftentimes it would be maybe great to do this even right before you’re going to sleep. Ask those two questions to your higher self and let the subconscious mind find the answer.
The fact that it is like a movie, it is important for the coach to invoke as many senses as possible. The sense of smell, the sense of touch, sense of sight, etc. Usually, the way that I do that through the relaxation part before I actually go into the visualization is I ask them to imagine someone that they love or really brings them joy. Then I ask them to feel that in their body, notice where they feel it and anchor it in. When I say anchor, to touch the part of their body where they feel and oftentimes that might be the heart or that might be the gut, the tummy. Sometimes for some people, it’s the throat. We use that also throughout coaching.
All of this anchoring, I’m remembering whatever their anchor position is. If it’s the gut, I will use that throughout our sessions of, “Put your hands on the gut. Let the gut talk to you rather than the head. Let’s get out of the head.” The next piece about future self is the amount of permission the higher self that’s really talking to them. Oftentimes, it’s the first time that this client has had the permission to dream freely, to be in their body and imagine what it would be like to live in their dream place. They usually leave the guided visualization feeling so excited, optimistic, hopeful and on fire.
I have to tell you, the wheel of life and the future self-visualization, I usually do at my first session, I have enough time in my first complementary coaching consultations to do both of these. It’s really remarkable. Pretty much every client that I do this with, they ended up leaving their job before they even hire me. I remember I had a woman back in Oakland, California when I was still an officer and she was coaching with me. We had done our sample session and she wanted to leave her job but she kept talking herself into it and she didn’t pay me. It was the complementary session. The next day she calls me and she says, “I want to hire you. I’ve quit my job. That future self just woke me up.” We worked together for about a year. It was this amazing exchange of witnessing her leave her career, work for herself and still be in my career and going, “I need to leave my career because this client has been amazing.” They’re both very powerful tools and I feel grateful and honored that I get to witness people have this wake-up, this shake up and this take up because of these two very powerful tools.
It’s wonderful to work what you’re doing and I truly appreciate you being here and sharing the work you do with our audience. Laurie, is there any final word of wisdom or advice you’d like to share with our audience?
I love that famous phrase, “This too shall pass.” It really got me through a lot of things. When people are attempting to leave a career or having an overhaul in their life, that’s such a lovely reminder that it isn’t permanent and it shall pass. You aren’t alone as it is passing. There are people to support you. I suppose that’s my little nugget to give.
Almost getting in a more of that mindfulness perspective where it’s like take a step back. There’s a greater you here than this moment. Try to ground yourself in that greater you. Let the moment pass. It’s not going to define you or anything like that. It’s a wonderful piece of wisdom for people. Thank you. What is the best way for our audience to contact you to learn more about what you do? What’s the best way you’d like for people to reach out to you?
I’m trying to drive people to my Facebook and my Instagram because I love these two platforms. It makes entrepreneurial life so easy. We can email a message from there and so on. My handle at Instagram and Facebook are exactly the same, @LifeCoachLaurie. If people email me, personal message me or comment on Instagram or Facebook, I always comment back and I always email right back. My email addresses are also on my Instagram and my Facebook as well if they prefer to go that route and my phone numbers as well.
We’ll have all your contact information on your profile at The Coaching Connector, which is www.TheCoachingConnector.com. You can go there to learn more about Laurie or you can go right to her Facebook or Instagram. It’s been truly a pleasure speaking with you, Laurie. Thank you so much for sharing the words of wisdom, encouragement, and inspiration with our audience.
Thanks, Lisa, and thanks for having me on. It was fun also learning with you. I really enjoy your energy. It’s so upbeat and positive. Thank you for all that you’re doing. It’s so cool what you’re doing.
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About Laurie Santos
Laurie Santos is a highly accomplished life coach who has worked with many international high achieving women to help them not only find meaningful work but create complete overhauls of their lives when necessary.
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